The Golden Thread
About this Episode
Harmonia explores Caodaism and its founder Lê Văn Trung, a tradition born in colonial Vietnam that honored the divine across all of humanity's sacred traditions.
L Vn Trung and the Caodai Vision
Podcast Episode Season Number
1
Podcast Episode Number
132
Podcast Episode Description
In the heat and complexity of 1920s colonial Vietnam, a people caught between the world they had inherited and the world being imposed upon them reached toward heaven --- and the divine answered. Harmonia stands on the steps of the extraordinary Holy See at Ty Ninh and asks a simple question: how did this get here? The answer leads to L Vn Trung, a man who had everything and was losing himself, who found his way back --- and in doing so helped build a tradition that made an audacious and beautiful claim: that the divine has never belonged to any single people, any single age, or any single tradition.
Podcast Transcript

Welcome back, my friend.

Last time, I took you to Lyon --- to a cold courtyard and a man named Antoine Chevrier who looked at the poorest children in the city and asked a question that most comfortable people never think to ask. What does God actually want from me? Not in theory. Not in church on Sunday. But here, now, in this moment, with these people.

It stayed with me, that question. It always does.

Today we travel far from Lyon. We cross continents and oceans and land somewhere that might surprise you --- a corner of Southeast Asia, in the heat and color and complexity of a place called Vietnam. A different world entirely. A different sky. A different kind of searching.

And yet.

The question rhymes.

I think you're going to find this one unexpected. I hope so. The best ones always are.

I want you to imagine that you are standing with me.

We are on the steps of a building in the province of Tây Ninh, about ninety kilometers northwest of what was then called Saigon. It is warm. It is always warm here. The air carries incense --- deep, woody, unhurried --- and somewhere inside, someone is praying.

Now look at this building.

I mean really look at it.

The towers rise like something you might see in a European cathedral --- but they are wrapped in dragons. Carved stone dragons, coiling upward, patient and watchful. The facade is painted in yellow and pink, colors that have no business being on a cathedral and yet somehow feel exactly right. There is a great eye above the central door --- a single eye inside a triangle, gazing out at you with an expression that is neither stern nor soft. Just present. Just seeing.

You walk inside.

The columns are more dragons. The ceiling is a deep blue, scattered with clouds and stars, as if the roof has dissolved and you are looking straight into the heavens. At the far end, an enormous globe --- the Earth itself --- sits on the altar, and on it, that eye again. Watching. Always watching.

There are figures here that you recognize, and figures you don't. Candles. Offerings. Robes in white and yellow and red. The sound of chanting in a language that is not French, not Latin, not Sanskrit --- Vietnamese, rising and falling like water.

I have stood in a great many sacred spaces in my time. I do not say that lightly. I have watched the Pantheon take shape in Athens. I stood in Canterbury when the stones were still new. I have been in desert shrines that had no roof but the sky.

This one stopped me.

Not because it was the grandest. It wasn't. But because it refused to choose. Because everything it was made of said: all of this is real. All of this matters. All of this belongs.

I stood on these steps for a long time, looking at that eye above the door.

And I asked myself the question that I imagine you are asking right now.

How did this get here?

Someone dreamed this building before a single stone was laid. Someone had to close their eyes and see it whole --- the dragons and the eye and the blue heaven of a ceiling --- and believe, with everything they had, that it made sense. That it was true.

I want to tell you about that someone.

To understand what happened in Vietnam in the 1920s, you have to understand what it felt like to live there.

France had controlled Indochina since the 1880s. And French colonial rule was not subtle. It came with administrators and taxes and rubber plantations and a clear, unspoken message that ran beneath every law and every institution: your way of doing things is inferior. Your traditions are quaint at best, primitive at worst. The modern world belongs to us. You are welcome to join it --- on our terms.

The Vietnamese people carried an ancient civilization. Confucian philosophy had shaped their family life and their sense of order for centuries. Buddhist temples dotted the landscape. Taoist ideas moved quietly through daily life like water through soil. And beneath all of it, a deep current of ancestor veneration --- the sense that the dead were not gone, that the line between this world and the next was thin and permeable and worthy of reverence.

And then France arrived and said: that is not how the world works.

For a people caught between the world they had inherited and the world being imposed upon them, the question of meaning was not abstract. It was urgent. It was daily. Where do we belong? What do we hold onto? What is still true?

Some of them went looking for answers in the old way --- the Vietnamese way --- trusting that the boundary between the living and the divine was thin, and crossable, and worthy of reverence. In Saigon, in the early 1920s, small groups of devout men began gathering quietly, drawing on that ancient understanding, reaching toward heaven with open hands. And in those gatherings, the divine answered. Not through a church hierarchy. Not through ancient scripture alone. Directly. Personally. To them. In Vietnam. Now.

Among those who came to this movement was a man named Lê Văn Trung.

He was not, at first glance, a likely candidate for spiritual leadership.

He had been a successful man by colonial standards --- a member of the French colonial council, part of the Vietnamese elite that had learned to navigate, and in some ways serve, the system of foreign rule. He wore Western suits. He moved in official circles. He had, by his own later account, also become dependent on opium --- lost, in the way that comfortable, hollow men sometimes become lost, not through dramatic catastrophe but through a slow drift away from anything that mattered.

He encountered the Caodai movement and something in him recognized it.

I watched him in those early days. A man taking stock. A man measuring the distance between where he was and where he suspected he was supposed to be. The transformation that followed was not the sudden lightning-bolt kind. It was quieter than that --- and in some ways more demanding. He set aside the opium. He set aside the comfortable compromises. He gave himself, fully, to this new calling.

By 1926, Caodaism was formally established as a religion. Lê Văn Trung became its first leader --- its Caodai Pope, if you want a word for it, though the role was something more complex and more humble than that title suggests.

And he began to build.

What Lê Văn Trung and his companions were saying was not complicated. But it was radical.

They were saying that God had not finished speaking. That the divine voice that had moved through the ancient teachers of China, through the contemplatives of India, through the prophets of the desert West --- that voice had not gone silent. It was still speaking. Here. Now. In this place that empire had decided was a backwater, a resource, a problem to be administered.

In colonial Vietnam, that claim carried a weight that is hard to overstate.

The French colonial project rested, among other things, on a story about civilization --- about who had it and who didn't. The religion of the colonizer arrived wrapped in that story. It came with the implicit suggestion that the sacred was a Western possession, that God spoke Latin and French, that the path to the divine ran through European institutions. Everything that came before --- the temple, the ancestor shrine, the Taoist sage, the Buddhist monk --- was at best a stepping stone, at worst an obstacle.

Caodaism looked at that story and quietly refused it.

Not with anger. Not with a political manifesto. With a cathedral.

By honoring the teachers of every tradition --- by saying that wisdom had flowed through all of them, that the divine had spoken in every language and through every age --- Caodaism was making a claim about human dignity that went far deeper than politics. It was saying: your ancestors were not wrong. Your traditions were not primitive. The sacred was here before the colonizers arrived, and it will be here when they are gone.

For a Vietnamese person in the 1920s, this was not abstract doctrine. This was a religion that described their reality --- a sacred story in which they belonged, in which their ancestors were honored, in which the divine had never abandoned them and was not done speaking.

Lê Văn Trung understood this with the particular clarity of a man who had once served the other side. He had seen what it looked like when a people were told their inner life did not count. He had felt something of that erasure himself --- not as a colonized laborer, but as a man who had traded his own depth for comfort and position and found the bargain hollow.

That knowledge made him a particular kind of leader. Not a distant authority handing down doctrine from above. Something more like a fellow traveler --- a man who had been lost and knew the territory, who could say to his community: I know what it is to search. I know what it is to find. Come.

He organized the community with care. He established the practices, the structure, the calendar of prayer. He oversaw the early work on the Holy See at Tây Ninh --- that impossible, magnificent building that would take decades to complete but existed whole and certain in the vision that preceded it.

And he did all of it with the quiet urgency of a man who understood that meaning, once found, is not something you keep to yourself.

Every now and then, across the long story of human seeking, something appears that refuses the boundaries.

Not by tearing them down. Not by arguing that the others were wrong. But by standing at the place where the rivers meet and saying --- look. Look at the water. It is all the same water.

Caodaism did something that very few religious traditions have ever attempted with such directness and such sincerity. It did not merely tolerate the wisdom of other traditions, or acknowledge them politely from a distance. It gathered them in. It said that the divine had spoken through all of them --- through the teachers of the East and the prophets of the West and the sages whose names have been half-forgotten --- and that this was not a problem to be resolved but a truth to be celebrated.

That is a remarkable thing to build a religion around.

I have watched other moments in history when this same intuition surfaced --- when a person or a community caught a glimpse of the larger pattern and tried to hold it. It surfaces quietly, in unexpected places, in unexpected times. Usually under pressure. Usually among people who have been forced by circumstance to see beyond the walls that more comfortable civilizations mistake for the whole of reality.

There is something about being caught between worlds that opens the eye.

The Vietnamese people of the 1920s were caught between worlds in ways that were painful and disorienting and real. And out of that pressure, this tradition emerged --- not despite the difficulty, but in some profound sense because of it. The very conditions that were meant to diminish them became the conditions that allowed them to see something larger.

And they built it to last.

The Holy See at Tây Ninh took decades to complete. Lê Văn Trung did not live to see it finished --- he died in 1934, eight years after the religion was formally established. But the building rose anyway, stone by stone and vision by vision, until it stood in the landscape of Vietnam as a quiet, colorful, utterly serious argument.

That argument was this: unity is not just an idea. It is not just a hope. It is something you can walk into. Something you can pray inside. Something that can hold a community across generations.

I think about what it means to build something you will not finish. To lay a foundation in the confidence that others will carry it forward. There is a particular kind of faith in that --- not the faith that moves mountains in a single dramatic moment, but the quiet, steady faith that plants a tree whose shade you will never sit in.

Lê Văn Trung planted that tree.

And it is still growing.

I have walked alongside a great many traditions in my time. I have watched them born and watched them grow and watched them, sometimes, forget what they originally knew.

And here is what I have noticed.

Every one of them, at their heart, carries an acknowledgment that the divine was speaking before they arrived. It is there in the texts, in the liturgy, in the stories told around fires long before anyone wrote anything down. The knowledge that this --- whatever this is, this reaching toward heaven, this hunger for meaning --- did not begin with us. We received it. We are part of something longer and larger than our own moment.

No tradition exists in isolation. Every one of them stands on the shoulders of what came before and reaches toward what is still unfolding.

The great teachers knew this. They did not arrive into silence. They arrived into a conversation already underway --- ancient, ongoing, larger than any single voice. And the most honest among them said so. They pointed backward with gratitude and forward with hope and said: there is more. There has always been more.

What Caodaism did --- what that extraordinary community in Vietnam did under enormous pressure and with remarkable clarity --- was simply to say it out loud. To build it in stone and dragon columns and a watching eye above the door. To make it impossible to look away from.

But the truth they were pointing at was not new. It was not theirs alone. It was already present in every tradition that had ever looked honestly at itself.

So the question Caodaism leaves with me --- and the question I want to leave with you --- is not whether you should become something different. It isn't. Your tradition is yours. It carries real wisdom. It has brought real people to real moments of transformation across real centuries. Honor that.

But go deeper into it.

Really look.

Find the place in your own sacred story where it acknowledges the larger conversation. Where it points beyond itself. Where it says --- quietly, perhaps, or encoded in a parable, or hidden in plain sight in a line of scripture you have read a hundred times --- that the divine was here before us and will be here after us and has never, not once, belonged exclusively to any single people or any single age.

It is there. I promise you it is there.

Caodaism is not the destination. It is the mirror. A people who had every reason to close their hands instead opened them --- and in doing so, showed the rest of us something about what our own hands might be capable of.

A world of people who looked that deeply into their own traditions would find each other there. At the center. Where the rivers meet. Not despite their differences, but through them. Not by erasing what makes each tradition distinct, but by following it all the way down to the place where it opens.

That place exists. In your tradition. Right now. Waiting.

I want to ask you something.

Not about Caodaism. Not about Vietnam. About you.

Is there a moment --- maybe recent, maybe long ago --- when you sat across from someone whose tradition was not yours, whose sacred story was told in different words and different images and a different language entirely, and felt something you didn't quite expect?

Recognition, maybe. Or resonance. The quiet sense that whatever they were pointing at and whatever you were pointing at were not, in the end, pointing at different things.

I have watched that moment happen across centuries. In marketplaces and monasteries and prison cells and ordinary kitchens. Two people from completely different worlds suddenly finding themselves, without planning it, standing on the same ground.

It is always a little surprising. Even to me.

I think Lê Văn Trung felt something like that. A man who had been lost, who found his way back not by retreating into something narrow and certain, but by opening to something vast. The tradition he helped build didn't ask anyone to abandon their history. It asked them to see it more clearly. To hold it more honestly. To follow it all the way down to where it connects.

That is available to you.

Not as a project. Not as a theological exercise. Just as a way of paying attention. To your own tradition. To the person across from you whose tradition is different. To the place where, if you are quiet enough and honest enough, something opens.

I have been watching humanity reach toward heaven for a very long time.

It is still the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.

I find myself back on the steps of Tây Ninh.

The building is still there. The eye above the door is still watching. The incense is still rising from somewhere inside, unhurried and certain, the way prayer always is when it has been practiced long enough to become simply the way things are.

I think about Lê Văn Trung. A man who was lost and found his way back. A man who looked at a world being pulled apart and helped build something that said --- all of this belongs together. All of this is held.

He did not finish the building. He didn't need to. He had already done the essential thing. He had shown his people that the divine had never abandoned them. That the sacred was not somewhere else, in someone else's language, in someone else's tradition. It was here. It had always been here.

That is enough for one life.

More than enough.

I am going to leave you here for a moment, on these steps, with that watching eye and that rising incense. Let it settle. Let the question we asked together find its own answer in you, in your own time, in your own tradition.

And when you are ready to walk with me again --- I want to take you somewhere completely different. Eighteenth century England. A man who could not stop writing. Words tumbling out of him faster than he could put them down --- thousands of hymns, tens of thousands of lines, a whole theology set to music that ordinary people could carry home in their mouths and their hearts.

His brother built the church. But Charles Wesley built something that has outlasted every institution --- the songs that people are still singing three hundred years later, in languages he never heard, in places he never imagined, at moments when words alone are not enough and only music will do.

I think you are going to love him.

Much love.

I am, Harmonia.

Religion
Caodaism, Le Van Trung, Vietnam, colonial Vietnam, Tay Ninh, syncretism, progressive revelation, unity of religion, spiritual transformation, world religions, sacred architecture, golden thread
Episode Name
Lê Văn Trung
podcast circa
1926